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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
以前所看到过的历史表述，大都指责张伯伦，这部电影就道出了首相的良苦用心。战争的直接受害者都是平民百姓，不到万不得已时，绝对不是热爱民众的政治家的选项。此时此刻，战争容易而和平难，激怒纳粹容易而缓解其大规模的铤而走险难。利用外交手段尽量将战争延缓，为盟国争取宝贵的准备时间，这是张伯伦处在那一历史时刻的伟大贡献。
这是一部典型的剧情推动电影，背景较为特殊，是根据历史小说改编，对其真实性的认可，是观众观看电影的思想基础。整个影片制作水准较高，故事的节奏把握得很好，紧张而流畅。尽管大家对这段二战历史史实都已经知道，但对影片所描述的故事：剧中主人公为阻止二战爆发而做出的努力，大家并不是很清楚，这也是大家的兴趣点所在。
合着英国佬还觉得二战的爆发没自己的锅了是吧，张伯伦尽力了，换邱吉尔全杀了是吧
两个年轻人挺打动人的，为他们的命运揪着，但是说张伯伦是为争取备战时间这样做的，是不是有点过于拔高，这段史实我不是太清楚。
设定突破了硬拗的极限，剧情极其无脑，表演超级浮夸
十年过去 仍然记得中学历史书上张伯伦的那张照片“我们已经拿到了和平的保证”。是的，希望，是指望别人做一些事来改变，但是，we have to fight，and I will definitely fight。看完这样的历史战争片总是内耗太大，不动一枪一火却能感受到其中的紧张。老板给我的感觉还真的和首相一样，日理万机之间跟你抽空说几分钟……
二战前夕的惶恐和一战留下来的创伤奠定了这部片子平稳、克制、压抑的叙事基调，无助与希望两股力量在那个年代每一个人心中不停对立冲撞。几乎没有太过戏剧化的高潮，但依旧精彩得让人目不转睛。把原著以惊悚谍战为主的心理戏完美呈现了出来，主演们的演技是此片得以成功的精髓。
政治是丑陋的，程序是必须的。很难说英国的文化和官僚体制是完全无效的，即是无捷径，不走极端。
1/5，这谍战拍的是来搞笑的吗？什么叫做毫无紧张感；这片子拍出来是为了洗白张伯伦吗？德国反对派那条线拍的真是有够烂～～～
選鐡叔演張伯倫絕對能拉高觀衆對張伯倫的好感啊！鐡叔還有點可愛的咧······想了想Hugh和Paul以後要經歷的事情，看結尾時就更心碎了。Jannis好帥好帥。可惜女性的空間還是很少。
电影其实质量还不错，如果没有结尾那几行“注解”，也许就不会有洗白张伯伦的争议了。
我分不清Hugh Legat和Joe Alwyn
很特別的視角, 講述張伯倫曲線救國的故事, 不知道真正過程是真是假, 只有當事人才能知道了
两个年轻人挺打动人的，为他们的命运揪着，但是说张伯伦是为争取备战时间这样做的，是不是有点过于拔高，这段史实我不是太清楚。
修道院楼下又一起抽一根烟并且互喷，『I.. have to fight. We'd all be much better off without it......』
张伯伦这个角色太具有争议性，典型的揣着明白装糊涂。不过不得不说这部电影里的希特勒和张伯伦演绎得都很有特色，把刻板印象里的两个人物似乎都推翻了去重建，并且效果甚好。
编剧导演是张伯伦的粉丝可以确定；不过是不是如片尾所宣称的战争的一年延迟确保了最终的胜利，则大有疑问。客观的看，张伯伦的绥靖也有他的道理，方今欧美不也绥靖着呢吗？绥靖在将来也不会绝迹。人性如是、制度如是。
历史 但最终历史并不由他们书写 强国可以决定弱国命运 人类的欲望永远是征服 征服永远是发动战争 没有永恒稳定的和平 无论放在哪个年代 都是定律
有几幕台词和画面的对应非常精巧，保罗和休的台词被休和妻子重现，但此刻休已经变成了“保罗”。凌晨街头汽车里关于谈判还是暴力的争吵其实象征着谈和还是战争吧，连阵营如出一辙。但我们去看的时候会知道谈判和暴力已经不再是他们能做的选择了，历史已经形成了，另一种行动必然会失败…
有几幕台词和画面的对应非常精巧，保罗和休的台词被休和妻子重现，但此刻休已经变成了“保罗”。凌晨街头汽车里关于谈判还是暴力的争吵其实象征着谈和还是战争吧，连阵营如出一辙。但我们去看的时候会知道谈判和暴力已经不再是他们能做的选择了，历史已经形成了，另一种行动必然会失败…
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