6 out of 7 people found the following comment useful.
A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
看前三分之一，完全感觉不到是枝裕和的存在，后半段感觉到了，是因为小偷家族2.0，缺少了那些最最日常的细腻表达，到了结尾让你永远相信发生的这些不过是一个“好剧本”。
能成为自己且一直坚持成为自己都是令人敬畏的事情
水准还是一流。喜欢买者用母乳喂奶那场戏，很刺痛生母；裴斗娜感慨自己才是“掮客”，也很有趣。但是饼叔能拿影帝是他几十年演员生涯的肯定，单凭这部戏实在是难有说服力。另外故事的话，也其实有点差强人意。
中规中矩，有是枝裕和的影子但是嫁接在韩国土地上有些水土不服。
糖水将人物冲泡的太过完美，当人物设定与行为的反差不再，那么戏剧冲突也显得不再必要，但对于这样一部电影，这又是必要的。
以为最终会是4人掮客小分队带上婴儿组成韩版小偷家族，最后还是走了偏现实结果。总体上几个人物都刻画的不错，摩天轮两个人的对话令人动容。
三星半。是枝裕和五成功力，仍然是他熟悉的“如鲠在喉”般的故事，优点是稳妥工整，缺点也是，不完全是水土不服的原因，像是CJ为他凑了一个顶级局，但拍出的却是部及格片。
跟小偷家族的故事架构有些相似，一群被社会抛弃的边缘人相互支撑取暖的故事。几个人一起去游乐场玩、躺在酒店床上扮作父母的口吻说谢谢……很多细节，导演投向底层的悲悯和温柔，依旧让人泪目：希望每个孩子的降生都能是生命的礼物。
题材还不错啊怎么拍成这样，全程浮在“丢弃新生婴儿的原因”和“与抛弃行为和解”这两个表面话题上，完全没有一点深入的意思，属于是内容没有深度，演员再顶也演不出来什么有效成果的东西。是枝裕和这把拉了
本来觉得剧情很平，很是枝裕和，直到我忽然间明白大叔为什么不见踪影。
有温情但太多，有细腻但不足，有犯罪但不重，有黑暗但够亮，总之，比较平淡，是枝裕和这次是不是失手了？
这种片子就是借了寄生虫的红利了，论质量跟早年的塑料树有啥区别呢
too tedious to watch
受疫情时代情绪影响，我已经对这类立场模糊、笔触温和的电影感到厌倦，更想看到犀利见血的创作。这部电影看似有意逆反“母职文化”，后半段又莫名其妙地“反堕胎”，尤其是IU这个角色，无论是设定还是表演，都面目模糊，空洞单薄。是枝裕和就是那种我承认他的大师性但我真的不愿再看他的作品的导演，另一个类似的，是贾樟柯。
几乎能脑补出李美敬在18年看完《小偷家族》后是何等的兴奋何等的喜爱是枝，于是千方百计也要诚邀是枝赴韩拍摄一部韩版的《小偷家族》。所谓一方水土养一方艺术家是正确的，即便如李安赵婷能将美国故事也拍的入木三分，除了所谓的普世价值，也绝对离不开他们旅居异乡多年而总结出的社会经验与文化洞察结果，看《掮客》的抽离感绝无关乎剧本的文化落差或视听的水平高低，而是这样的“犯罪童话”真很难体现出其环境载体本该携带的那渗入土壤又出自土壤的生命力量，它更像是一部由一位游走于当代东亚社会的无名吟游诗人传唱出的动人民谣，在由多民族多语言演绎各版本之后，被朝鲜民族再次本土化改编而搬上银幕的复刻产物 w/阳
虽然但是，好无聊啊。总感觉换成日本背景能好点。
最喜欢摩天轮上的那场戏，那才是是枝裕和。人物动机和逻辑很牵强
不太理解为什么宋康昊通过这部没啥发挥空间的片子拿了影帝
/2022.7.5/看到后来，我都忘记电影名字了；是枝裕和太会拍不是一家人的一家人了；对了，那个生养观，很不赞同。
这些人凑在一起真的是，乱七八糟，毫不相容，毫不相干。
Copyright © 2015-2023 All Rights Reserved
